Franco-German Engine Sputters on Ukraine and a Conversation with Ambassador Charles Fries

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Max and Donatienne discuss the recent Franco-German spat on Ukraine and the direction of European defense before turning to the EU’s new defense industrial strategy. Then, Max talks to Ambassador Charles Fries, Deputy Secretary General for Peace, Security and Defense at the European External Action Service (EEAS) about the EU’s role as a defense actor. 

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Max Bergmann

Max Bergmann

Director, Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program and Stuart Center
Donatienne Ruy

Donatienne Ruy

Director, Executive Education and Abshire-Inamori Leadership Academy, and Fellow, Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program

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