Franco-German Engine Sputters on Ukraine and a Conversation with Ambassador Charles Fries

Max and Donatienne discuss the recent Franco-German spat on Ukraine and the direction of European defense before turning to the EU’s new defense industrial strategy. Then, Max talks to Ambassador Charles Fries, Deputy Secretary General for Peace, Security and Defense at the European External Action Service (EEAS) about the EU’s role as a defense actor. 

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The European Union Charts Its Own Path for European Rearmament

Max Bergmann
Director, Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program and Stuart Center
Donatienne Ruy
Director, Executive Education and Abshire-Inamori Leadership Academy, and Fellow, Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program