Behind the Scenes: Obama and Bourdain Share a Meal

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Podcast Episode by Kathleen McInnis

Published January 24, 2024

Host Kathleen McInnis sat down with Under Secretary for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs Liz Allen. The pair discussed Under Secretary Allen’s mission to reimagine the power and purpose of American diplomacy, including her role in planning the 2016 meal between President Obama and Anthony Bourdain in Vietnam.

Kathleen Mcinnis

Kathleen McInnis

Former Director, Smart Women, Smart Power Initiative and Senior Fellow, Defense and Security Department

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