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The Impossible State Live Podcast: What Are U.S. and NATO Views on China?

May 28, 2025 • 11:00 – 11:45 am EDT

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Please join the Impossible State podcast for a discussion on the United States and NATO views of China, and the strategic objectives of their policies. The conversation will be moderated by Dr. Victor Cha and will feature Ms. Henrietta Levin, former Deputy China Coordinator for Global Affairs at the U.S. Department of State and former Director for China at the National Security Council, and Dr. Luis Simón, director of the Centre for Security, Diplomacy and Strategy (CSDS) at the Vrije Universiteit Brussel (VUB) School of Governance and the Brussels office of the Elcano Royal Institute.

In this episode, they will discuss the Trump administration’s policy toward China, U.S.–China trade relations, the future of U.S. and NATO engagement with China, and more.

This event is made possible through the general support of CSIS.

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Contact Information

  • Minchi Hyun
  • Special Assistant to the President, Geopolitics and Foreign Policy Department and Program Manager, Korea Chair
  • MHyun@csis.org
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Victor Cha
President, Geopolitics and Foreign Policy Department and Korea Chair
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Henrietta Levin

Henrietta Levin

Former Deputy China Coordinator for Global Affairs, U.S. Department of State; Former Director for China and Southeast Asia, National Security Council
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Luis Simón
Senior Associate (Non-resident), Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program